Gentile 2:58 Sat Jun 27
4-2-3-1 formation next season with current squad?
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Assuming Bilic goes with his favoured 4231 formation next season the side at the moment could look quite interesting.
Players not listed below will hopefully be moved on and I'm making assumptions on signing Song and Jenkinson.
Adrian
Cresswell
Jenkinson (fingers crossed)
Tomkins
Reid
Obiang
Kayoute
Noble
Payet
Downing
Carroll
Subs
Randolph
Collins
Poyet
Song (hopefully)
Amalfitano
Jarvis
Sakho
Valencia
A front three of Downing, Payet and a fit Carroll could be incredible.
Will Bilic go 4231 and if so what players do we still need apart from cover at CB full back?...
COYI
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ironsofcanada
11:27 Sun Jun 28
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Crumpet 11:17 Sun Jun 28
Bottom line is that Mark Noble is second on our team in tackles/games and 6th in fouls/game. There might be others to look at first .
He tries to do much at times but he does not hide, which I respect.
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Crumpet
11:17 Sun Jun 28
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Not if it's the Song of the second half of the season no. But I take your point, as even in the game at Old Trafford Song made some ridiculous tackles early on.
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ironsofcanada
11:16 Sun Jun 28
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Stubbo 11:10 Sun Jun 28
I mostly agree with that.
That being said I think he looked pretty decent dawdling-wise when he had runners and Song doing his job at points last season. Keep strengthen the midfield around him and he will do fine.
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ironsofcanada
11:13 Sun Jun 28
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Crumpet 11:06 Sun Jun 28
So you can remember (poorly) 3 silly free kicks in two seasons.
You really don't want us to sign Song again then do you?
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Stubbo
11:10 Sun Jun 28
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Haven't read the whole debate,but don't think Noble gives away proportionally more fouls...if he does in dangerous areas its becuasr that's where he's making the tackles.
His biggest liability for me is he dawdles on the ball, takes too many touches and slows our play down a lot of the time.
Sometimes he gets caught in possession as a result, sometimes it nullifies what we're doing as a result, but he's a decent Premier League midfielder. He's not top class as borne out by the fact no big side has ever made any kind of concerted effort to take him off our hands.
Will he be first choice this year...unlikely the way the side is shaping, but I'd expect he'll get plenty of pitch time.
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Crumpet
11:06 Sun Jun 28
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I've never mentioned that goals were scored from the free kicks, only Baines one.
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whufcroe
11:04 Sun Jun 28
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Still if I give you 3 over 2 season and 69 games, then that's not high for a central midfielder by any means
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Crumpet
11:04 Sun Jun 28
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Roe, believe me, in my time lurking on here I've realised that some people have agendas, and I most definitely do not take any notice of posters like Fordstar or Nicey. I don't dislike Noble at all, I think he can be a decent player but he does give away silly free kicks that are unnecessary.
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ironsofcanada
11:02 Sun Jun 28
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Crumpet 11:01 Sun Jun 28
It wasn't from a free kick. It was a pretty decent move from their own half - was my point.
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whufcroe
11:02 Sun Jun 28
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If it was against Hull then it didn't lead to a goal....
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Crumpet
11:01 Sun Jun 28
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Canada, I didn't mean Sigurdson scored the free kick, just that he took it, but Roe has already said Noble didn't play, so it obviously wasn't that game.
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whufcroe
11:00 Sun Jun 28
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See here's what happens, a few idiots like Fordstar say Noble gives away loads of freekicks around the area, he gives away a pretty bad one like against Everton 2 seasons ago that leads to a goal and all of sudden people jump on the band wagon he gives away freekicks in dangerous areas loads.
That's all I ever see on here, Noble, Noble, Noble when in fact he gave nothing bad away last season on the scale of say Song against Tottenham.
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Crumpet
10:59 Sun Jun 28
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Then I'm wrong, or it could have been Hull.
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ironsofcanada
10:58 Sun Jun 28
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Crumpet 10:54 Sun Jun 28
We won 3-1 and their goal was Boney from open play.
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whufcroe
10:57 Sun Jun 28
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Strange Mark Noble didn't actually play at home to Swansea
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Crumpet
10:54 Sun Jun 28
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Yes mate, I'm pretty sure it was Swansea at home.
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ironsofcanada
10:52 Sun Jun 28
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Crumpet 10:30 Sun Jun 28
Last season?
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Crumpet
10:30 Sun Jun 28
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The home game against Swansea, go and watch through it, get back to me if I'm wrong.
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whufcroe
10:22 Sun Jun 28
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Crumpet 9:47 Sun Jun 28
So one from the season before last, one from Southampton, maybe and one v Swansea?? Home or Away?
Just a little stat form last season
Fouls conceded
Alex Song 52
Cheikhou Kouyate 48
Mark Noble 34
Tackles lost
Alex Song 20
Cheikhou Kouyate 20
Mark Noble 17
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The Ghost of Braderz
9:52 Sun Jun 28
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Probably the more likely formation yes but remember unless Valencia and Sakho start alongside each other you have to moan about how shit the manager is.
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Crumpet
9:47 Sun Jun 28
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Everton the season before last from which Baines scored from, Southampton last season I believe and I think it was either Swansea or it could have been Hull, although thinking about it I think it was Swansea as Sigurdsson took the free kick.
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